Mumbai: Anna Hazare feels there is no
`ideological confusion` in his anti-Congress posture and the
appeal to elect `good people` from all parties.
The anti-corruption crusader is also unapologetic
about the prospect of BJP benefitting from his anti-Congress
stance after his announcement yesterday that he would campaign
against the Congress in five states going to poll next year if
the Jan Lokpal Bill was not passed in Winter Session of
"There is absolutely no ideological confusion (in my
stance). If this is ideological confusion, then what was that
thing between P Chidambaram and Pranab Mukherjee? What sort of
confusion was that," Hazare said during a televised debate on
a Marathi news channel.
He was asked about the contradiction between his
anti-Congress stance on one hand and his appeal to elect `good
people` from all parties on the other.
"What was on display in the two ministers` `cold war`,
was all that ideological? Should the country take inspiration
from it? Is this (their) ideological level?" Hazare asked.
"The good people in Congress should remove the
two-three fish that are spoiling the entire pond. Only then
will people get to see their good image," he said.
Asked if he felt his anti-Congress stance would
benefit the BJP, Hazare said, "Why do you allow others to
benefit? Had you brought the bill on time, others would not
benefit. So, there is no point blaming me. Today, Congress is
in power. It is in majority. If they decide, they can enact
The anti-graft campaigner was sceptical about the
commitment of political parties to root out corruption.
"We don`t believe in parties. Tell me, which party is clean?
All are drenched (in corruption). There is no future with
these parties. Now the only alternative is that good people
from all parties come out and form a new party."
Asked if he felt Congress had become `nigargatt`
(Marathi word for thick-skinned), Hazare said, "One can
say that, because if they had the will, they would have
enacted the law by now." "One cannot deny that they (Congress)
are `nigargatt`. Had they cared for the society and country,
they would not have delayed enacting the law," he said.
Hazare called Manmohan Singh a "good person", but
said," The remote control does not allow him to do much. What
will the poor man do?"
Asked if he was indulging in brinkmanship with his
repeated ultimatums to the government, Hazare said, "Had I not
been doing this, we would not have seen seven different
legislations in Maharashtra and also, six (corrupt) state
ministers would not have been forced to demit office."
"Let critics say what they feel....let them abuse me,
the truth is that people throw stones only at the tree that
bears fruit. It is not that I am fond of agitations. But I am
fighting for the country," Hazare said.
Asked if he was not dabbling in politics by asking
people to vote against Congress, Hazare said, "Let people say
what they want. All are aware that corruption has reached
grassroots. We are only trying to get the Jan Lokpal bill
"The bill (Lokpal Bill) came up in the Lok Sabha eight
times in last 42 years but could not be passed. This only
shows that the government does not have the will to create a
corruption-free India," he said.
When pointed out that social activist Medha Patkar has
said that there was no discussion in Team Anna core committee
about holding yesterday`s press conference where he made
the anti-Congress appeal, addressed by him and Arvind
Kejriwal, Hazare said what Patkar was saying was true.
"The issue of me and Kejriwal holding the press
conference was not discussed in the core committee. What I
said in the press conference was my personal opinion, not that
of the movement. Also, the agitation I will undertake will be
at a personal level," he said.
Responding to allegations about his `dictatorial
style`, Hazare said, "let people say what they want. The
masses know the truth. They know that I am fighting for them,
for the country."