Washington: Some Indians living in Karachi
were willing to work with Lashkar-e-Toiba to carry out terror
attacks in India, David Headley has said, apparently referring
to underworld don Dawood Ibrahim, who is based in the port
city of Pakistan.
During his five-day testimony before a 12-member jury of
a Chicago court that conducted the trial of Mumbai attacks
co-accused Tahawwur Rana, Headley made the reference to "some"
Karachi-based Indians willing to work with LeT leader Abdur
Rehman Hashim Syed aka Pasha for executing terrorist attacks
In response to a question during the testimony, Headley,
a Pakistani-American LeT operative, told the court that Pasha
had travelled to Karachi to meet these Indians.
It is well known that Dawood Ibrahim has been living in
Karachi for quite some time now and carrying out operations
against India. His presence in Karachi, is however, denied
strongly by Pakistan, even though India has provided concrete
evidence in this regard.
"... he (Pasha) had nationals of India who wanted to work
in India," Headley said in response to a question.
"Who did Pasha have?" he was asked.
"He had some Indian nationals in Karachi," Headley said.
"Okay. And when you say work, what were they going to
do?" the attorney asked again. "Carry out attacks in India,"
Headley said in response.
Headley said that after being encouraged by the success
of the Mumbai terrorist attacks, al Qaeda commander Ilyas
Kashmiri wanted him to travel to India again and carry out
surveillance for another set of targets, which included the
National Defence College in New Delhi and Chabad houses across
"He said that his leadership was very upset about the
recent Israeli bombing in the Gaza Strip, which was in January
of that year, and they wanted to retaliate in some way. So he
wanted me to go and look at the Chabad Houses again in India,"
Headley said, referring to his conversation with Kashmiri
after the Mumbai attacks for which he said the al Qaeda leader
was very pleased.
By leadership, he meant that the individual was the al Qaeda number three, whom Headley identified as one "al Masri."
Headley said he agreed to go back to India for further
surveillance as the leadership desired. The list of Chabad
houses for surveillance was given to him by Pasha, who also
directed him to go to National Defence College in New Delhi.
"He (Pasha) said if we were able to conduct an attack on
it, we would be able to kill more brigadiers in the Indian
army than had been killed in the four wars that Pakistan and
India had fought previously," Headley told the court, adding
that he received money for tickets, airfare and travelling
expenses from Pasha.
Headley said that he copied and pasted this list of
Chabad houses in India in a secure email, which was created
for security purposes by Rana.
"I thought it would be more secure if I wanted to access
it in India," Headley said.
"Why didn`t you just keep a handwritten list on your
person?" the attorney asked.
"So that if I was stopped and somebody found a list in my
pocket, it would not seem right," he responded.
While in India, Headley said he visited New Delhi,
Pushkar and Goa. He carried a camera for video surveillance at
all these three places and made observations about each
In Delhi, he said, he visited National Defence College at
least three-four times and took video of the place.
While one of the gates was closed most of the time, the
other was open. The security at the National Defence College,
he said, was lax.
"I did see a few going in and out of the place. And I
noticed the guards seemed very lax," Headley said.
After carrying out the surveillance work, Headley went
back to Pakistan where he met Pasha and handed over the videos
to him and shared his assessment of these places.
"It (National Defence College) seemed pretty -- in my
opinion, and I gave that to him (Pasha), that it seemed pretty
easy to access that facility," he said.
"He (Pasha) said he was definitely going to work on
that," Headley said.
"When he said definitely, did you observe anything about
his demeanor?" the attorney asked.
"Yes. I thought what I got from him, that it would be in
the near future," he responded.
"Did you have a sense that it was an important target?"
he was asked. "Yes," Headley said.
"Was it important to you?" asked the attorney. "Yes", he