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Deadlock in India-Pakistan NSA level talks: As it happened on August 22
Pakistan on Saturday decided to call-off Indo-Pak NSA-level talks which were scheduled for Sunday, stating it has come to the conclusion that the NSA talks would not serve any purpose if conducted on the basis of the two conditions laid down by India. Here are the live updates:
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New Delhi: Pakistan on Saturday decided to call-off Indo-Pak NSA-level talks which were scheduled for Sunday, stating it has come to the conclusion that the NSA talks would not serve any purpose if conducted on the basis of the two conditions laid down by India. Here are the live updates:
Pakistan's decision is unfortunate. India did not set any preconditions: MEA
Pakistan's decision is unfortunate. India did not set any preconditions.
— Vikas Swarup (@MEAIndia) August 22, 2015
We only reiterated that Pakistan respect the spirit of the Simla & Ufa Agreements to which it was already committed.
— Vikas Swarup (@MEAIndia) August 22, 2015
As per ANI, Pakistan has issued a statement that proposed NSA level talks between the two countries would not serve any purpose if conducted on the basis of the two conditions laid down by EAM Sushma Swaraj.
"Main purpose of any dialogue between India and Pakistan is to reduce tensions and restore trust as a first step towards normalisation. If only purpose of NSA level talks is to discuss terrorism, then instead of improving prospects for peace it will only intensify the blame game and further vitiate the atmosphere. That is why Pakistan had suggested that apart from discussion on terrorism related issues, the two sides should also discuss modalities and if possible a time schedule for discussions on all outstanding issues including Kashmir, Siachen and Sir Creek, in keeping with the understanding of the Ufa statement. That is the only way to improve the prospects for peace between the two countries," Pakistan MoFA was quoted as saying by ANI.
26/11 Special PP Ujjwal Nikam has met NSA Ajit Doval and briefed him on Pakistan's involvement in Mumbai attack,also gave some documents: ANI quoted sources
BJP chief Amit Shah has gone to meet Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Speculations are doing the rounds that both are holding discussion over NSA Level talks between India and Pakistan.
Also Read: Timeline of dialogue process between India, Pakistan
Moderate Hurriyat Conference leader Bilal Lone detained at Delhi airport. Lone has been put under house arrest at his rented residence in South Delhi.
NSA Level talks between India and Pakistan unlikely to take place: ANI quotes Pak govt sources
We are ready for a bilateral dialogue with Pakistan. But, it should be only and only on 'terrorism': Rajnath Singh
Kashmir is not an issue. It is an integral part of India and it will remain so. Hurriyat leaders are not representatives of Kashmir. It's the government that represents the state: Union Minister Venkaiah Naidu
We hoped that issue will be resolved through dialogue process but its becoming murkier now: Separatist leader Yasin Malik told ANI
Pakistan wants to breed terror in India. It is an inveterate habitual offender and wants to destabilise talks: Senior Congress leader Kapil Sibal
Beet gayi so baat gayi - Sushma Swaraj on talks between Hurriyat leaders and Pakistani leaders when Atal Bihari Vajpayee was prime minister.
Also Read: Here's what Sushma Swaraj said in press conference
Responding to questions on Dawood Ibrahim, Sushma says India will table whatever evidence it has. "Evidence available only with the Indian media will not be accepted by Pakistan," adds the EAM.
I am still hopeful of NSA-level talks happening tomorrow. Pakistan still has a few hours to decide - Sushma
World's biggest problems are solved only through dialogue, war is not the solution - Sushma
Talks will be between countries, no room for third parties: EAM Sushma Swaraj pic.twitter.com/BDZ2LcA8GT
— ANI (@ANI_news) August 22, 2015
They have only tonight to decide - Sushma
If they (Sartaj Aziz) come here for talks but don't agree to restrict the agenda to terrorism and go ahead with meeting with Hurriyat, NSA-level talks will not happen - Sushma
It's not we who are running away from talks, in fact it is they who are running away. Because they know, if they ask for evidence on terrorism during talks, we will give them a living proof (in captured Pakistani terrorist Naved) - Sushma Swaraj
You are ready to come, we are ready to welcome you. We just want you to honour the spirit of the Shimla and Ufa agreements - Sushma Swaraj
Sartaj Aziz should come if he agrees with India on the points made by us - Sushma Swaraj
Terror and talks can't happen but talks on terror can - Sushma
We request Pakistan to restrict NSA-level talks to the issue of terrorism and welcome them to come here for talks. Composite Dialogue cannot happen at the level of NSAs - Sushma
Dialogue will be held only between India and Pakistan, there's no scope for any involvement of any third party like Hurriyat. We request Pakistan to respect Shimla Agreement - Sushma
Talks will be held on all outstanding issues, like Pakistan is saying, but that will happen only after talks on terrorism and border - Sushma
We were under pressure amid rising ceasefire violations and terror attacks like in Dinanagar of Punjab's Gujarat to cancel NSA-level talks - Sushma
Pakistan has also not provided dates for talks between DGMOs of two countries and DG BSF-level talks. Pakistan laid foundation for talks not to happen - Sushma Swaraj
We sent an invite on July 23 for NSA talks on terror. They replied only after 22 days on August 14 - Sushma Swaraj
What happened was that Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif started getting criticised in his country after agreeing to NSA talks with India. They than started looking for a way out of NSA talks - Sushma
Three meetings were decided in Ufa, out of which one meeting was 'NSA level talks' on terror. The other was for talks between DG BSF and Pak Rangers for peace at the border, and the third was meeting between DGMOs for ceasefire violations - Sushma Swaraj
There have been several attempts to resume talks with Pakistan but there have been many obstacles - Sushma Swaraj
India has always insisted that talks can happen only in a peaceful and cordial environment. Terror and talks were delinked at Ufa; we decided there to hold talks on terror and border - Sushma
When PM Narendra Modi and Nawaj Sharif met in Ufa, Russia, they did not decide on resumption of Composite Dialogue - Sushma Swaraj
Composite Dialogue had stopped after the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks issue - Sushma Swaraj
I want to tell you some facts - Every 'talk' between India and Pakistan cannot be termed as 'dialogue'. Composite Dialogue had started during Atal ji's time in 1998. It had eight issues - Siachin, Sir Creek, Tulbul Navigation Project, Terrorism and Drug Trafficking, Economic and Commercial Cooperation, Promotion of Friendly Exchanges, Peace and Security including CBMs, and Jammu and Kashmir - Sushma Swaraj
Sushma Swaraj has arrived for the press briefing.
External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj will shortly brief the press on the NSA-level talks with Pakistan.
I have heard Pakistan NSA Sartaj Aziz's statement and I am not at all surprised by that statement. In sheer shamelessness there is no other country which can match Pakistan. We should just tell Mr Sartaj Aziz that he is not welcome and put an end to this ongoing drama, says former Union minister and senior BJP leader Yashwant Sinha.
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Pakistan NSA Sartaj Aziz on Indo-Pak NSA level talks pic.twitter.com/wLrBvxpVOY
— ANI (@ANI_news) August 22, 2015
Since Prime Minister Narendra Modi has come to power they want dialogue on their terms and conditions without Kashmir which is not possible for us - Sartaj Aziz
Also Read: What Pakistan NSA Sartaj Aziz said in his press conference
No serious dialogue is possible with India unless Kashmir is included - Aziz
We are witnessing continuous ceasefire violations from the Indian side. It is unfortunate that in the past two months more than 100 ceasefire violations took place resulting in many casualties on Pakistan's side, says Pak Foreign Secretary Aizaz Ahmad Chaudhry at the press conference.
India's assertion that Kashmir was not on agenda is incorrect - Sartaj Aziz
Escalation of tensions along LoC worrisome; meeting between BSF and Pakistan Rangers will take place on September 6 - Sartaj Aziz
When I go to India I meet different political leaders, when they come they meet opposition and other leaders. It’s strange that they will expect that discussion on meeting with Hurriyat will become part of agenda; it’s not a substantial item - Sartaj Aziz
Pakistan wants to discuss modalities of the Kashmir issue, it is a complex matter - Sartaj Aziz
If I don't get opportunity to hand over the dossiers to Indian NSA in New Delhi, I hope to give it to him in New York next month if he comes for the annual UNGA Summit - Aziz
We have not formally cancelled the talks, Indian External Affairs Minister is holding a press conference this afternoon, we’ll see what comes out of it - Sartaj Aziz
They have not formally cancelled the talks so we will go and make the best of it - Sartaj Aziz
We're very disturbed about arresting of Hurriyat leaders as it's a violation of their fundamental rights - Sartaj Aziz
Three point agenda including exploring modalities for the talks for all outstanding issues proposed by Pakistan was in keeping with Ufa understanding - Aziz.
We never expected any breakthrough in the meeting, but current issues could be resolved - Sartaj Aziz
Is it conceivable that India would cancel first ministerial meeting on such a flimsy grounds relating to meeting with Hurriyat leaders? - Sartaj Aziz
Urge PM Narendra Modi to ponder over 'collective responsibility' to maintain peace - Sartaj Aziz
It is India which introduced the condition that there should not be a meeting with Hurriyat leaders which is akin to controlling the guest list for Pakistan reception - Aziz
I will be carrying three dossiers on activities of India's RAW in Pakistan - Aziz
Also Read: Three dossiers on India's involvement in Pakistan, says Aziz
Major theme being played up in Indian media is that Pakistan is apprehensive of dossiers being prepared by Mr Ajit Doval - Aziz
As always, India has been conducting part of its diplomacy through its media - Sartaj Aziz
Pakistan ready to hold NSA-level talks without any pre-conditions - Sartaz Aziz
Most important outstanding issue between India and Pakistan is Kashmir - Sartaj Aziz
India had agreed on talks over all outstanding issues in Ufa - Sartaj Aziz
Nothing could be further from the truth that Pakistan was not interested in talks - Sartaj Aziz
Last year India had cancelled the talks between Foreign Secretary scheduled for August 25 in Islamabad. The reason for this regretful second cancellation if it happens will be the same - Sartaj Aziz
Why is India stopping Hurriyat leaders from meeting us? - Sartaj Aziz
India and Pakistan have a collective responsibility to maintain peace - Sartaj Aziz
Sartaj Aziz is now holding a press conference in Islamabad.
Pakistani National Security Adviser Sartaj Aziz is now expected anytime to hold a press conference in Islamabad. He is expected to announce whether he is coming to India tomorrow for the NSA-level talks. Reports say Aziz has spoken to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif ahead of the press conference.
Ahead of Pakistani NSA Sartaj Aziz's press conference, India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval meets PM Narendra Modi and briefs him about the current developments.
"India is only willing to hold talks on agenda that was agreed upon by both sides in Ufa, there can be no change in agenda. We want to make it clear that India is willing to talk on terror. Now it's upto Pakistan to decide whether they want to hold talks or not," says Home Minister Rajnath Singh.
"Dawood's permanent residence is in Pakistan, but such people keep on changing their location," says Rajnath on media reports that India has fresh evidence on the undeeworld don's presence in Pakistan.
Kashmiri separatist leader Shabir Shah has been detained upon arrival at the Delhi airport from Srinagar. He has now been taken to an undisclosed location. The move was expected as government had indicated earlier that separatist leaders would not be allowed to meet the Pakistani NSA in Delhi.
Also Read: Separatist leader Shabbir Shah detained at Delhi airport
Home Minister Rajnath Singh has advised Pakistan not to deviate from the agenda that had already been set for the NSA-level talks.
"The agenda for Indo-Pak NSA-level talks was agreed upon in Ufa, Pakistan must not deviate from this agenda. We are willing to hold dialogue with Pakistan on issue of terror, only terror," Rajnath said.
"If talks have to happen, they will only happen only between NSAs and only on terror," the minister added.
When asked by a reporter whether Shabir Shah will be arrested upon arrival in Delhi, Rajnath said, "Everything is not said in words."
Separatist leader Shabir Shah arrives at Delhi report, say reports. There is speculation that he might be detained as government sources had earlier said that Kashmiri separatist leaders will be sent back from the airport if they come to Delhi for talks with Pakistani NSA.
Whole activities of Pakistan will be exposed if they come for talks with India, which is why they are hesitating, says Union Minister Sadananda Gowda.
External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj is also expected to brief the press at 4.00 pm today, say reports.
Reports say Pakistani NSA Sartaj Aziz is likely to brief the press at 1.30 pm today, amid speculation that talks with India may be called off.
Also Read: Indo-Pak NSA talks: Swaraj, Aziz to hold press meets
"Every government be it NDA or UPA has handed dossiers after dossiers to Pakistan regarding Dawood's whereabouts. The question is, what will you do with the evidence. Pakistan won't hand over Dawood to you, do you have the capacity to be able to get him yourself?" asks Congress leader Manish Tewari.
"Timing (of Dawood dossier) seems to suggest the government is trying to save face because they’ve really messed up this NSA-level dialogue," Tewari adds.
Also Read: Dawood Ibrahim is in Pakistan, shows evidence available with India
Separatist leader Shabir Shah leaves for New Delhi to meet Pakistani NSA Sartaj Aziz.
"We won't back out, will go to Delhi and meet them. It's important for us to go so that we can seek answers from their side (Pakistan) also," says Shah after leaving his residence.
"We will meet Pakistani NSA Sartaj Aziz ji tomorrow at Pakistan House in the evening. We've been going for the last 25 years (to meet Pakistani leaders), be it during NDA regime led by Atal ji or UPA government," Shah says, adding "peaceful dialogue is the only way to resolve issues".
What we need is to maintain good relations with all neighbours including Pakistan. We're trying to restore normalcy. But they (Pakistan) are provoking us. An appropriate response will be given at an appropriate time, says Union Minister Venkaiah Naidu.
The August 23-24 NSA-level talks between India and Pakistan appear to be on deathbed with New Delhi declaring on Friday that "unilateral imposition of new conditions and distortion of the agreed agenda cannot be the basis for going forward" with the talks with Islamabad. India, however, stopped short of calling off the dialogue.
In a strongly-worded statement, India questioned Pakistan's insistence that National Security Adviser Sartaj Aziz would meet Kashmiri separatists, calling it "a complete departure" from the agreement reached between Prime Ministers Nawaz Sharif and Narendra Modi at Ufa, Russia.
"India has always held the position that there are only two stakeholders in our relationship, not three," the External Affairs Ministry said in a statement, alluding to the two factions of the Hurriyat Conference invited to meet Aziz in New Delhi ahead of his meeting with Ajit Doval.
The wording of the Indian statement indicated that the talks were being called off. But soon after the statement was reported, Indian officials clarified that New Delhi had not called off the August 23-24 talks.
But it was clear that the talks would be in jeopardy if Pakistan insisted on going ahead with the Aziz-Hurriyat meeting. It is understood that India's statement has been conveyed diplomatically to Pakistan. There has been no response as yet from Islamabad.
It is also understood that India has conveyed that it is ready for the "Ufa spirit of the talks to be implemented on the ground" and has asked Pakistan not to give a "distorted interpretation".
India maintained that at Ufa, both sides agreed on a "limited engagement", which included the NSA talks on terrorism-related issues, talks on ceasefire violations and on humanitarian issues. It said it wanted to progress "step by step", and the NSA talks was the first step.
It also contended Pakistan's assertions that all issues would be discussed at the NSA meeting.
The Pakistan foreign office, in a statement Friday night, said that it was "deeply disappointed" at the Indian statement putting forth "preconditions" for the NSA talks. It said that it was the second time that India has "chosen to go back on a decision mutually agreed upon" by their prime ministers "to engage in a comprehensive dialogue, by coming up with frivolous pretexts" and accused India of "reneging" on agreements agreed at between heads of government.
Earlier, making things more difficult, the Pakistani foreign office said that "the Hurriyat leaders are true representatives of the Kashmiri people. Pakistan regards them as genuine stakeholders in the efforts to find a lasting solution of the Kashmir dispute".
The Indian reaction came after Islamabad conveyed to New Delhi that Aziz would indeed meet Hurriyat leaders at a reception to be hosted by Pakistan's High Commissioner in New Delhi, Abdul Basit.
The MEA statement said that the stance "... does not come as a surprise. There has been a pattern to Pakistan's actions after the Ufa summit, and today's position is a culmination of that approach".
"At Ufa, the two prime ministers agreed on a meeting of the NSAs to discuss all issues connected to terrorism as well as ensure peace and tranquility on the border.
"Instead, we saw a sharp increase in unprovoked firings from the Pakistani side and some serious cross-border terrorist incidents, the last one, at Udhampur, resulted in the capture of a Pakistani national, a matter that would have naturally come up in the NSA talks on terrorism, to Pakistan's discomfort.
"In so far as those talks are concerned, Pakistan took 22 days to respond to the Indian proposal to meet in New Delhi. It then proposed an agenda that was at complete variance with what the two prime ministers had agreed upon in Ufa.
"Together, these two actions indicated its reluctance to go forward with sincerity on the agreed process.
"Even more significantly, without confirming either the programme or the agenda, the Pakistan high commissioner invited Hurriyat representatives to consult with the visiting NSA.
"This provocative action was completely in consonance with Pakistan's desire to evade its commitment at Ufa to engage in a substantive discussion on terrorism," the Indian statement said.
Earlier on Friday, Pakistan rejected India's request made on Thursday that Aziz should not meet the Hurriyat leaders ahead of meeting Doval. The decision was taken at a meeting in Islamabad chaired by Nawaz Sharif and attended by army chief General Raheel Sharif. Separately, Aziz also met Lt Gen Rizwan Akhtar, chief of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency.
A spokesman for hardline Hurriyat leader Syed Ali Shah Geelani, who favours Jammu and Kashmir's merger with Pakistan, told IANS that he would meet Aziz separately.
India called off Foreign Secretary-level talks with Pakistan in August last year after the Pakistani envoy invited the Hurriyat leaders for a dialogue ahead of the talks.
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